Monday 12 November 2012

slain in spirit ? (vic stock)

excuse my editing but enjoy the word you will be blessed !

Here is my example of a really real serious slain in spirit,  body killed and soul sent to hell, most times when people are dropped  by the Holy spirit for one reason or another they will eventually get up some times they will go on to commit their live to Christ but some times they will also return to their vomit and old gentile habits again.

Acts 5 (Here is a good example of slain in spirit you will never get up again! )


But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles'feet. 3 But Peter saidAnanias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained , was it not thine ownand after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghostand great fear came on all them that heard these things. 6 And the young men arosewound him up , and carried him out, and buried him. 7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she saidYea, for so much. 9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold , the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out10 Then fell she down straight way at his feet, and yielded up the ghost : and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth , buried her by her husband. 11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.


Act 12,  Acts 12:21-24 Herod smitten. (slain at it's fullness)

1 samual 25:36-39 Nabal smitten by God
2 Kings19,35 Assyrian's slain

These two verses below  explains how Jesus has sent the comforter which is the Holy Ghost and it is he that reveals Christ to the spirit of the unconverted soul of man. He brings guilt and reveals the righteous Judgement of God to this sinful world. Note how he will reprove the world of sin, reprove comes mainly through God word , but reprove can come through a other ways as well ie ; death, accident, or a combination of difficulties taking place in a persons life  .Today I am looking at being knocked down in church, so called slain in the spirit. The below verses show God spirit  at work  in the world and especially in church. 


Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement: 9Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11Of judgement, because the prince of this world is judged.



There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest , except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born ? 5 Jesus answered , Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth , and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh , and whither it goeth : so is every one that is born of the Spirit. 9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be ? 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

This show how the spirit of God is like the wind you can't see it you don't no where it comes from but you can feel and see the manifestation of it's works. So is his operation in  church with signs and wonders . Some times it can make you laugh, cry, dance, shout, jump for joy, skip and praise God.

This next scripture taken from 1 Samuel 19, show how God spirit can fall on people who even have murder in their hearts and some not all the manifestation of how they can behave. Note when they stopped prophesying  they go back to there same old wicked ways. So Gods spirit falling or over shadowing a person dose not automatically  mean they are saved or fill with the spirit of God. Note in this chapter how king Saul stripped naked while prophesying,an unseemly  reproach , but saul was in back sliding at the time. 


7 And Saul said unto Michal, Why hast thou deceived me so , and sent away mine enemy , that he is escaped ? And Michal answered Saul, He said unto me, Let me go ; why should I kill thee? 18 So David fled , and escaped , and came to Samuel to Ramah, and told him all that Saul had done to him. And he and Samuel went and dwelt in Naioth. 19 And it was told Saul, saying , Behold, David is at Naioth in Ramah. 20 And Saul sent messengers to take David: and when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying , and Samuel standing as appointed over them, the Spirit of God was upon the messengers of Saul, and they also prophesied . 21 And when it was told Saul, he sent other messengers, and they prophesied likewise. And Saul sent messengers again the third time, and they prophesied also. 22Then went he also to Ramah, and came to a great well that is in Sechu: and he asked and said ,Where are Samuel and David? And one said , Behold, they be at Naioth in Ramah. 23 And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on , and prophesied , until he came to Naioth in Ramah. 24 And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night.


Note also how balaam sort to curse Israel for money but the spirit of the Lord came upon Balaam and turn the curse into a blessing (but in the depth of his soul there was still a evil love for money)which brought his destruction in the end.

This next scripture taken from Hebrew 12:18-22 shows how in the present of God a righteous man  can still fear and quake at the Holiness and awesome power of the almighty God. 


 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched , and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words;which voice they that heard in treated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded , And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned , or thrust through with a dart: 21 And so terrible was the sight , that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:) 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,



In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.
Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. Isaiah fearful while in the presences of Holy angels.  



I believe it is the move of the Spirit  of the God to chastise men or
 to humble men in the presence of  a Holy all powerful  God. God said to
 Moses take off thy shoe for the place where thou standest is Holy ground.
knocking down people causes them the realise there is a power greater anthen they.(God)

 Exo 3:1-5. But I also believe that some times it is a spirit of deception ,
 Satan, ignorance, zeal with out knowledge, acting for money sake and lack of knowledge in carnal believers.
 Below are different  manifestations of the moving of the spirit and what 
falling backward can some times mean. 
A great deal of teaching with Holy Ghost feeled teachers is needed on
such a very contentious subject like this.


(Philippians 1:15-18) Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and 

some also of good will: 16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely,
 supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17 But the other of love, knowing that
 I am set for the defence of the gospel. 18 What then? notwithstanding, every way,
 whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached ; and I therein do rejoice,
 yea, and will rejoice. Acts 16:16-23, St john 3:1-12, Luke 4:35.


Acts 9:3-4
    "And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
    • And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?"
    • We don't know if Saul fell down backward or forward but we know he fell to the ground. Saul(Paul)  being confronted by Jesus on the road to Damascus falls to the ground and is also blinded by Christ for three days similar to Zachariah the Priest . Please note Saul was not totally converted yet. The apostle Paul went on to be a very powerful  weapon in the hands of God for the gospel . The Holy spirit convicted him after the ministration of Steven the deacon who was stoned to death for preaching Christ to the Jews, with Saul consenting to his death. Christ was working out his plan in the life of Saul.

    Genesis 49:16-17
    • "Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.
    • Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward".
     Dan is equated with the serpent who bites at the heels of horses that the horsemen might 'fall backward.' i.e., it is a spiritual picture signifying his bite is to make the strong people to fall into judgment. In point of fact, the name Dan itself is the Hebrew word [dawn], meaning 'judge.' Indeed, Rachel herself declared that she named him Dan because God had judged her.
    Genesis 3:15
    • "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
    This falling backward of those whom Dan accosts, signifies they are come under Judgment. In no way does this scripture showing 'falling backward' signify the anointing of the spirit, or a blessing of God. On the contrary, it signifies God's hand upon man. Some times a reprove or correction.
    1st Samuel 4:18
    • "And it came to pass, when he made mention of the ark of God, that he fell from off the seat backward by the side of the gate, and his neck brake, and he died: for he was an old man, and heavy. And he had judged Israel forty years."
    Likewise, this falling backward is in the context of the judgment that God sent upon the people of Israel for their rebellion. There was a great slaughter of Israel by the Philistines, and the ark of the Covenant, the symbol of God's promise to Israel, was taken by the heathen. God had foretold of His judgment upon Israel, and now he was bringing it to pass.  This man fell backward, broke his neck, and died 'because' the Ark of Israel was taken in Judgment.
    Isaiah 28:13
    • "But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken."
    The Lord is speaking here of rebellious Israel, that they would not hear His Word of truth, and He declares that they would be broken, caught in their own snare or web, to be trapped. And He uses the terminology of His judgment as them, 'falling backward.'

    Likewise, when Judas betrayed Christ and the soldiers came to arrest Him in the Garden of Gethsamene, Jesus asked them who it was they sought, and their reply was, Jesus of Nazareth:
    John 18:6
    • "As soon then as he had said unto them, I Am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground."
    Note that the word 'he' is not actually in the original manuscript, it was placed there by translators in an attempt to make the sentence flow smoothly. Jesus literally says, I AM,announcing He was the Great I AM (Exodus 3:13-14), the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. As soon as Christ said I AM, these wicked men who would come to accuse God, fell backward to the ground, signifying their own judgment. They had come to arrest righteous God for violation of the law, and God (not willing to stop His arrest, but to show forth His Authority), has them all 'fall backward' at the sound of His Glorious Name, 'I AM!' This isn't the picture the Charismatics want to paint of those who fall down backward, but it is the picture which God paints. No one 'caught' these men who fell backward, no one saw or alleged any anointing of them by the Spirit, and no one claimed that this was God's blessings upon these men. Because falling backward is a 'sign' of Gods hand working in this chapter. And in an ironic twist, this verse of John 18:6 is one which many attempt to use to support their claims of Biblical precedence for their belief in falling backward. On the contrary, it illustrates just the opposite. That it  can signify those who come under Judgment of the Great I AM, and not those who are blessed of God.

    It supports the truth that this event signifies God's chasitisement . If we are going to go by the scriptural record of what men falling down backwards entails, then we have clear validation that it involves those  in sin, under conviction or who lack a  knowledge of God's word.

    Numbers 22:27
    • "And when the ass saw the angel of the LORD, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam's anger was kindled, and he smote the ass with a staff."
    This Hebrew word translated fell is [rabats], which means to crouch or to lie down. In no instance does it mean an involuntary falling backward. To use this passage as support for such events is taking liberties above and beyond what can be 'honestly' justified. The ass simply crouched down or lay down under Balaam because of what he saw. He did not fall backward. Genesis 17:3

    Joshua 5:14

    • "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?"
    Matthew 17:5-6
    • "While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
    • And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid."
    Luke 17:16
    • "And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan."
    Revelation 7:11
    • "And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,"
    Revelation 11:16
    • "And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,"
    Acts 9:3-4
      Even in our day (in war for example), when a man comes face to face with his opponent who has the power to kill him, he goes down to the ground or to his knees in submission and fear. We saw this in the Gulf war. How much more Saul standing in the presence of the Light of God from Heaven?  Man is in fear when in the presence of the Almighty God, and he falls to the earth in terror at the voice and anointing of God. We have scripture after scripture in the Old Testament Proving just that, and I'm sure we all know them.  but with his knowledge of his frailty before a great power, or that he is in the presence of the Almighty God, the Great 'I AM!'

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